NEW! Jordan Peterson Mind blowing INSIGHTS on Consent, Sex, Rape & Alcohol – YouTube

More clarity from this amazing man. He has an uncanny ability to boil down complex issues into digestible pieces. And he is absolutely right. There is a meme travelling around right now that the pill freed women and feminism has freed men. It is going to be interesting how he tackles that one.

(Noticed that these usually get taken down so I am copying the transcript)

we’ve had relatively reliable birth
control since 1960 okay that’s not very
long and we underestimate the
unbelievable technological triumph of
birth control it’s it’s the hydrogen
bomb
it’s the transistor like it’s a
major-league transformation in human
interaction women are now free from
involuntary reproduction that’s never
been the case in the entire history of
the planet okay we don’t know exactly
what to do about that okay so the first
idea in the 60s was hell let’s party and
you know you could see why it’s like
what the rules for not engaging in
promiscuous sexual intercourse seemed to
have vanished so we had a couple of
decades of experimentation it’s like
well how’d that go little hard on the
family I would say that’s not so good
for kids AIDS
that wasn’t the Plus could have killed
us all and it mutated particularly to
take advantage of promiscuous sex
because viruses are very tricky things
so it turns out that sex is a little bit
more complicated than we thought well it
actually turns out that it’s a lot more
complicated than we think okay and now
it’s for 50 60 years later and we’re
trying to sort this out it’s like well
when is it okay to have sex exactly and
when is it not okay to have sex and what
does it mean that it’s okay and what is
consent mean and the answer to that is
well we never used to have to think
these things through because the rule
was don’t have sex until you get married
that was the rule
now that isn’t the rule okay so what’s
the rule well we’re not having a
conversation about the rule we’re
waiting til someone does something that
seems like it might be untoward and then
mobbing them and trying to extract the
rule out that way and it’s not a very
effective way of doing it you know you
want to decrease campus rape that’s easy
get real qahal no one has that
conversation it’s like I did my PhD work
on alcohol fifty percent of the people
who are murdered are drunk and fifty
percent of the people who kill them are
drunk and almost all the date rape
situations are consequences of excess
intoxication but yet there’s a party
culture on campuses and anything goes
and you also have this strange thing
especially on the radical left which is
which is unbelievably paradoxical where
absolutely every form of sexual
expression imaginable is 100%
permissible because sex is fine but it’s
so dangerous that while you’re dancing
with someone at a Princeton mixer you
have to ask them two or three times if
it’s okay for you to continue and and
that’s that’s actually the case by the
way I’m not making that up it’s like
well both of those things can’t be true
now what’s happening I think on the me
to end of things and the affirmative
consent end of things is the old sexual
taboos are reasserting themselves the
idea that we can extract sex out from
emotional intimacy and especially
emotional intimacy I would say
psychological intimacy maybe even from
long-term relationship is I don’t
believe it’s a tenable idea I don’t
think we can do it and a lot of what
we’re seeing is the backlash against
that it’s like well I feel used
you know because one of the things
that’s happening on the really radical
end of the anti sexual abuse movement is
the idea that well if you have
intercourse with someone and then you
regret it the next day that’s evidence
that it wasn’t consensual
well it
is in the sense evidence that it wasn’t
consensual because it’s evidence that
you didn’t bloody well think it through
right it was good for last night but
it’s not good for today it’s not very
wise the question is well what
constitutes consent and we need to have
a very serious conversation about that
like under what circumstances is it
acceptable to give consent but we’re not
mature enough to have that conversation
we want both ways we want to be able to
do whatever we want with ever with what
with whoever we want whenever we want
with no consequences and we want there
never to be any trouble about consent
it’s like well no that’s not going to
happen I don’t think that sex works very
well outside of committed relationships
I don’t think there’s any evidence that
it does there’s a strong proclivity
across cultures for for the enforcement
social enforcement of long term monogamy
and there’s reasons for that and I think
you deviate from that at your peril so
now if you if you want to deviate from
that there’s all sorts of reasons to do
it and I can understand why people are
interested in adventure and all of that
but you know my sense also as a
clinician is you know you only really
get to try out about five people in your
life you have to make a decision pretty
damn quick you know like between twenty
and thirty there’s a lot of things to
get straight and long-term mate is
usually one of them and most of the time
people should be more careful with their
sexual behavior when they’re young
especially when they’re drunk than they
are and I think it I just think it’s so
interesting that all of the taboo
reconstruction is coming from the
radical left it’s not what you’d expect
at all you’d think it’d be the damn
right-wing Christians complaining about
you know sexual immorality it’s like no
it’s the radical lefties you know you
you have to have sign consent before
making any physical move and then that’s
so what really who thought that up
that’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever
heard you know how awkward that would be
you know you’re supposed to be able to
do a little bit of nonverbal reading
right I mean that’s part of romance you
don’t see it you ever see a movie where
the two people who are dating exchanged
consent notes like that doesn’t happen
so it’s an unrealistic solution but but
I think the real solution is that
despite the fact that we have reliable
birth control we’re going to have to
relearn what the acceptable rules of
propriety are with regards to sexual
relationships one of the things I often
tell my young clients is don’t do
anything physically with anyone that you
wouldn’t talk to them about because if
you’re too damn embarrassed to talk
about it well maybe it’s a little
premature in the relationship to
actually do it and then there’s harm in
it
you know there’s emotional harm in it
throw on both parties there’s the
cheapening of both parties so well so
it’s gonna take us a long time to sort
this out but hopefully we can do it in a
serious manner and and it won’t be
merely a matter of mobbing those who
seem to have made an error so I mean do
you want a more a state with more
regulatory power do you want a state
with more surveillance I mean first of
all why would you think that that would
be trustworthy when all the evidence
suggests in the past that as the state
expands its surveillance power it
actually becomes less trustworthy rather
than more and why would you want you
might think well I certainly want
someone looking into your affairs but I
don’t want anybody looking into mine
well good luck with that because you
know to the degree that I have someone
elect someone to look into your affairs
their bloody well going to be looking
into mine as well and that just doesn’t
strike me as a particularly positive
development and practically because I
don’t believe it’ll work I don’t think
surveillance states do make people more
honest I think all the evidence is the
opposite and then I would say from the
individual perspective it’s like I
believe that the
the fundamental what we got
fundamentally right in the West because
there is a number of things we got
fundamentally right even though we don’t
like to admit that anymore is that the
ultimate moral responsibility for the
state relies on you it relies on your
moral integrity and you know you can
it’s not that hard to think that through
it’s like well first of all you have the
right and the responsibility to vote and
we could say well that’s not exactly
given to you by the state it’s it’s
something that exists in some in some
sense outside and before the state it’s
part and parcel of your intrinsic value
okay so that’s a decision that we’ve
made in the West that each person
regardless of their flaws is
characterized by a value an intrinsic
value that’s so deep and so profound
that the very regulation of the state
itself rests on their shoulders and
that’s really something that’s that’s
why you have the right to vote and
that’s worth thinking about the first
question is well do you think that’s a
good idea or not
I do believe that we are in fact
sovereign individuals and then well
let’s assume that you believe that we
are because the alternative is some sort
of autocracy right it’s some sort of
tyranny it’s it’s the it’s the parsing
off of that sovereignty to a bureaucracy
or to some arbitrary form of leadership
and maybe you can believe in that and
you’d like a strong leader and fine but
you want to think that through because
if it’s not that then it’s you well then
it’s if it’s you and you have to make
sure that the ship of state is sailing
properly then the first thing you might
want to ask yourself is what makes you
think you’re any more trustworthy than
the people that you’re that you’re
despising or criticizing I mean if you
are well more power to you but it isn’t
self-evident that you are and my
suspicions are that it’s not even
self-evident to you that you are because
it’s a very rare person that you come
across if you talk to them with any
degree of seriousness you know they’re
able to layout it
a whole litany of ways they fall short
of their own value their own values not
values that other people are putting on
them
certainly that as well and they can name
innumerable ways that not only are they
not doing what they should be doing so
they’re falling short of the mark in
that way but they’re doing all sorts of
things that they definitely shouldn’t be
doing and they know it it’s like well
we’re gonna put that right or not and my
sense is you know I wrote a rule in my
book put your house in perfect order
before you complain about the world
before you criticize the world what’s
the idea it’s like well you’re the
sovereign man if the states if the ship
of state is listing and sinking that’s
you that’s your problem it’s your fault
you’re not doing it right you’re not
educated enough you’re not awake enough
you’re not articulated and articulate
enough you don’t know enough about
history you’re not taking on enough
responsibility you’re looking for other
people to blame because it’s convenient
and and and that’s kind of
understandable because it’s the
dispersal of responsibility who wants
all that responsibility but there’s a
huge price to be paid for it
the the first price that you pay for it
is well there goes the adventure of your
life it’s like you could get yourself
together and be the bedrock of the state
right that’d be hard that call on
everything that you have that would be
your adventure you’re gonna pass that
off to someone else and then then what
do you do you’ve got nothing left in
your life a triviality and you can’t
live I don’t believe that people can
live ethically trivially that’s why I
think the pursuit of the idea that life
is for happiness is wrong because life
is too difficult for that to be the case
our lives are too profound to
characterized by suffering and
malevolence the world is too
characterized by trouble at every level
for happiness to be the proper solution
the solution is something like a heavy
burden of ethical responsibility the
kind that
sets the state straight and then in that
you find the purpose of your life and so
not only if you want the external
monitoring and the surveillance state
not only do you sacrifice your privacy
and invite all that invasive attention
and lose your impulsive freedom you lose
everything that’s profound about your
life and someone takes it from you they
take your destiny from you and that’s no
way to live that’s just that’s the
tyranny that we’ve struggled against in
the West successfully for I would say in
one way or another for for for a number
of thousands of years and with a
substantial amount of success to
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